General Discussion - Militant Faith Keystone - The Agnostic - Is Awesome - Forum - Path of Exile (2024)

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TL:DR - Militant Faith Keystone the agnostic creates a new avenue for strong EHP pool sustain for some builds effectively comparable to slayer vaal pact overleech running constantly. The build I made could kill shaper on a 25c budget handily.

- I created a build around this new keystone to see if it was good in practice as it sounded on paper. It sacrifices 20% of mana per second to recover that much on your health pool until you reach full health. This effectively allows you to invest into Mana-regen as your main recovery method and it will sustain your mana and health. When building into this with a hierophant I quickly realized it makes Righetous Fire(40% more spell damage) easy to add into a build while still having good ehp sustain, and without RF on it feels as good as vaal pact overleech if not better in a lot of ways. For example with no phys reduction, I literally cannot kill myself in uber lab traps even if I try to.

Why does this build interact so well with Righteous Fire and Uber Lab Traps?

- Traps and Righteous Fire deal damage to your character based on a percentage of your HP. With MoM and any additional damage taken from mana before life, allows us to take full advantage of our full mana regen along with any damage taken gained as mana. So with my character regening close to 2k mana per second with recovery rate and arcane surge up, im at like a 60% per second regen as a percentage of my 3k-ish HP pool is concerned which traps and RF can't touch.

EHP

- My current build is a rag tag of gear and non defensive optimization of my tree, and I have roughly 3.3k hp + 6k mana with 50% damage taken from mana which gives me a hit hp of 6.6k but with alittle more defensive tree + a watchers eye with 10% damage taken from mana before life while affected by clarity, the build could easily hit 4k life with a 10k 1 hit hp pool. Easily modified to be hardcore viable.

Build Cost

- My current gear costed me a little less than 1 ex(roughly 4 pieces I had equipped since level 20 or so) and frankly I could have still killed shaper(fairly easily) on 25c if I had forgone getting a watchers eye, and 5L pledge of hands. I forgot to record audio on this shaper kill but am too cheap to buy another set, This build almost instant phases shaper and frankly if I was a better player it probably could with using ralakesh boots to get charges before hand along with timing vaal RF with shaper fight, but haven't done shaper too many times so my timing was garbage.

Here is the video:

Shaper Vs The Agnostic Hierophant - https://youtu.be/UIgY3J3tFSc

If enough people are interested in the build, I will try to make a more fleshed out build guide for it. but for now here is the pastebin: https://pastebin.com/JMhFJLEC

EDIT 1: wrote up a quick build guide because at least 2 people were interested in the build LINK: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2557258

Correction:-

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I've actually played around with this interaction a lot this league, although from personal experience I would say that its mediocre at best considering the investment and opportunity cost you would need regarding mana investment, your Watcher's Eye slot, and essentially Cloak of Defiance being mandatory for the build.

It's definitely as good as it looks but your math is kind of off. At 50% MoM, your EHP is double your life pool, assuming that your mana pool is more than your life pool. You got that covered, but damage taken gained as mana over 4 seconds does absolutely nothing for your EHP, essentially capping your character out at 2x your raw HP value, assuming that something potentially one shots you. Otherwise if you're just getting chunked the Agnostic should help you recovery from just about anything granted that you don't get one shot for over 6.6k damage.

Agnostic is definitely as good as you advertised it, however mechanically it converts a raw amount of mana per second into life. Its extremely powerful in the sense that you can get an absurd amount of recovery this way in conjunction with a low raw health pool. However, even if you are regenerating 2k mana per second, the Agnostic conversion caps it at 20% of your mana pool per second, meaning that you're only regenerating 1.2k health per second if you have a 6k mana pool. Getting mana recovery rate on your belt or on a Clarity Watcher's Eye mod will indeed boost your mana regeneration rate, however will not affect the 20% conversion cap, meaning that you would actually need life recovery rate on your belt or on a Vitality Watcher's Eye mod or just a larger mana pool in order to scale the Agnostic. This means that you're actually only regenerating 6000*.2/3300=36% of your life per second in your current state, capped out at 1.2k mana converted per second.

Nonetheless Agnostic is still powerful, even if you aren't truly converting 100% of your mana regen into raw life regen. This is where the more multiplier from Righteous Fire comes in handy since you can easily sustain it with all the excess mana regen you aren't converting into life.

Credit:- https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/c48hpz/militant_faith_keystone_the_agnostic_is_awesome/

Second time today I see a build with pledge / frost orb-ice nova interaction.

Seems like the silent OP from day 1 isnt anymore.

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Isdp wrote:

Second time today I see a build with pledge / frost orb-ice nova interaction.

Seems like the silent OP from day 1 isnt anymore.

silent OP?